Daniel P. Barron

This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God.

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 

evilytwisted: Hi, if anyone is available, I would like to prod and poke at your brain for a few.
thunor: I am available.
evilytwisted: I would like to if you don't mind, read an article and tell me why or why not you believe in the article on what its trying to say,
thunor: I'm not christian.
evilytwisted: And?
thunor: Okay.
evilytwisted: I'm not a purple orange screaming Justin Beiber lyrics. https://applygodsword.com/god-does-everything-for-his-own-glory-verses/. i
Daniel: Evilytwisted, hi.
thunor: I read a bit of your article but got bored as I'm drunk.
Daniel: I'm reading it now. Comments forthcoming.

I believe you would discover God does everything ultimately for himself, for his glory.

This is correct.
evilytwisted: Okay, so if you don't mind. Can you send your responses on why you believe what you believe, to my email so i can forward this on to my friend?
Daniel: So far, I like all the scripture reference.
evilytwisted: I've talked to many people about this, non denominations, denominations etc.
Daniel: I can put this log in a paste that you can link him to.
evilytwisted: Okay. That's fine as well. I just would like a thorough viewpoint from you, and please understand, my name is meant for a joke, I'm not evil or twisted.

He allows some people to die so he might be glorified (John 11:4 ii).

He doesn't just allow; He causes people to die.
evilytwisted: I know it can be a bit unnerving.
ljrbot: John 11:4 -- And Jesus hearing it, said to them: This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God: that the Son of God may be glorified by it.

He allows some people to be sick so the power of God may be made known (John 9:3 iii).

He doesn't just allow them to be sick; He wounds. (Deuteronomy 32:39 iv)
ljrbot: John 9:3 -- Jesus answered: Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents; but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

If it didn't glorify God to make us, to save us, to love us, he wouldn't have done it.

I don't know if we can speculate on what God "would have" done.
Daniel: Evilytwisted, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/eWsH7/?raw=true. Ugh why did that cut off. v
evilytwisted: Use http://www.pastebin.com. It's easier. Shorter links.
Daniel: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Slo5q/?raw=true. Would be nice if I could comment on the article itself. Why is it that so few bloggers allow comments. vi
evilytwisted: Well google documents lets you copy/paste the article. And then you could insert your comments? vii
Daniel: I have my own blog for doing that, and I will add this to my drafts.
evilytwisted: Okay. I appreciate the paste link from this IRC viii channel, ix but is there anyway I can get you to look through all of those verses, and tell me what you think on each one. When you are available.
Daniel: The stuff I didn't comment on is stuff I agree with. God causes all things, and it is indeed all for His glory. Where the author goes off track a little is suggesting God is "allowing" bad things to happen, rather than actively causing them. x
evilytwisted: I understand, I'm just trying to ask for a thorough comment on the article. When you aren't busy. I'm not asking right this very second. I'm not asking for it to be done in an hour, a day, or this week.
Daniel: I think I have already done that.

  1. "God Does Everything for His Own Glory" by Mark Ballenger. ^
  2. John 11:

    4 When Jesus heard that, He said, “This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it.”


  3. John 9:

    3 Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him.


  4. Deuteronomy 32:

    39 ‘Now see that I, even I, am He,
    And there is no God besides Me;
    I kill and I make alive;
    I wound and I heal;
    Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand.


  5. For some reason people use strange characters for things like quotation marks that, in this case, apparently jam up the bash script I use for wotpaste. ^
  6. Specifically, "christian" bloggers. The ones that actually have comments enabled, most of the time do not approve my comments. Why do they hide criticism? They suppress the truth. (Romans 1:18) Contrast with my blog, where all are welcome to comment with the harshest criticism, and yet few do! ^
  7. It's sad that the go-to solution most people come up with is the fast and free one, but that also puts personal content in the hands of a small oligopoly of media companies. ^
  8. "Internet Relaly Chat." ^
  9. "Channel," aka "chat room." ^

  10. Darwin: Indeed, all things are of Him, through Him, and to Him. (Romans 11:36) But, at the same time, Scripture does use the concept of God allowing something. Acts 14:

    16 who in bygone generations allowed all nations to walk in their own ways.


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