dissy: Darwin, what are your views on Psalm 82 i and John 10:34?
Scripture: John 10:34 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<34> Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, "You are gods"'?
Darwin: Please see the first point at "Our Hermeneutics." ii
dissy: So do you think that the Scripture He quotes is irrelevant to understanding what He meant? Jesus cannot incorrectly interpret Scripture
wasimali: hello
Daniel:wasimali: is acts 8.37 the word of god?
Daniel: yes
wasimali: but in many versions its missing
Daniel: so?
wasimali: and its not in the earlist manuscripts
Daniel: says who?
wasimali: its missing from codex sinaticus and codex vaticanusDarwin: No to dissy
dissy: @wasimali2020 Do you think that Irenaeus or Cyprian quoted it?
Darwin: What does that matter?
dissy: I was talking about the Acts 8:37 variant wrt what the wasimali guy said
Darwin: Same question
Darwin: "Oldest manuscripts" is a farce
dissy: Surely them quoting it would constitute evidence
Darwin: No it wouldn't, because that is still based on assumptions
dissy: I asked if they did think Irenaeus quoted it
Darwin: Yes, I know
dissy: So then what assumptions?
Darwin: For example, how does anyone know Irenaeus even existed?
Darwin: Or, existed in the time they claim?
dissy: Yes
dissy: Oh, you asked how they know
dissy: If I ask them whether they think Irenaeus quoted it, and they say yes, then presumably they think Irenaeus existed.
Darwin: Of course, but that doesn't mean he did exist, or even said what is written
Darwin: Someone could have made it all up, or parts thereof.
dissy: So then what would your response be to their issue with Acts 8:37? Can't use Irenaeus or Cyprian
Darwin: There's no certainty in ancient history outside of the Bible
dissy: That seems circular though, because we are debating what the Scripture is. Namely, whether Acts 8:37 is Scripture
dissy: The whole textual variant doesn't really matter too much though, Jesus is called the Son of God again a chapter later
Daniel:dissy: The gods in Psalms 82 are judges and rulers, and so if even the Pharisees are gods according to the passage, then Jesus says how is He blaspheming when He actually was sanctified and sent into the world by the Father?
dissy: By chance I decided to re-read Deuteronomy after reading the Psalm 82 passage, and in the very first chapter I found that the judges of Israel were rebuked for the same thing that Psalm 82 accuses of the elohim (Deuteronomy 1:16-18). So I have some reason to think that this is really just referring to judges.
dissy: Leviticus 19:15 is relevant as well
Scripture: Deuteronomy 1:16-18 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<16> "Then I commanded your judges at that time, saying, 'Hear the cases between your brethren, and judge righteously between a man and his brother or the stranger who is with him. <17> You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the small as well as the great; you shall not be afraid in any man's presence, for the judgment is God's. The case that is too hard for you, bring to me, and I will hear it.' <18> And I commanded you at that time all the things which you should do.
Scripture: Leviticus 19:15 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<15> 'You shall do no injustice in judgment. You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor.
dissy: I think a correct interpretation of Psalm 82 places the elohim as powerful Israelites, and that these are what the Pharisees represent in John 10
Darwin: You miss Joshua's point
dissy: What does Joshua say?
Darwin: John 10:35
Scripture: John 10:35 - New King James Version (NKJV)<35> If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
Darwin: He called them gods
dissy: Yes?
Darwin: They accuse Joshua of blasphemy for claiming to be God, and Joshua argues back with, Scriptures calls men gods
Darwin: The Egyptians are called gods.
Darwin: Exodus 18:11
Scripture: Exodus 18:11 - New King James Version (NKJV)<11> Now I know that the Lord is greater than all the gods; for in the very thing in which they behaved proudly, He was above them."
Darwin: Nehemiah 9:10
Scripture: Nehemiah 9:10 - New King James Version (NKJV)<10> You showed signs and wonders against Pharaoh, Against all his servants, And against all the people of his land. For You knew that they acted proudly against them. So You made a name for Yourself, as it is this day.
Darwin: Idols don't "behave". They are idol
dissy: They are gods insofar as they are powerful Israelites. A correct understanding would be: If these Pharisees who will die as men are gods according to Scripture, then why is Jesus blaspheming when He says He is the Son of God if He was actually sanctified and sent by the Father?
Darwin: They are gods (powerful) insofar that they are men.
dissy: That doesnt make sense of Psalm 82. Why are they called the gods, and the destitute and afflicted aren't?
Darwin: It doesn't say they aren't
dissy: Ok, so then I argue that your argument hangs on the thread of it not being explicitly excluded, and my argument is the one that makes the most sense of the text
Darwin: "all of you are sons of God" doesn't just apply to judges
Darwin: Vs6
Darwin: "we also are his offspring "
Darwin: Acts 17
dissy: The you of v6 qualifies to the judges, since they are the subject of the Psalm
Darwin: So, only judges are sons of God?
dissy: No, but the judges are the only sons of God that are dealt with in Psalm 82
Darwin: Not necessarily
Darwin: Others can't judge unjustly or show partiality?
dissy: It's pretty evident they are. Who else does Psalm 82:1-4 speak out to?
Scripture: Psalm 82:1-4 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<1> God stands in the divine assembly; he administers judgment in the midst of the gods. <2> "How long will you judge unjustlyand show favoritism to the wicked? Selah<3> Judge on behalf of the helpless and the orphan; provide justice to the afflicted and the poor. <4> Rescue the helpless and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
Darwin: Psalm 82:4
Scripture: Psalm 82:4 - New King James Version (NKJV)<4> Deliver the poor and needy; Free them from the hand of the wicked.
Darwin: Others can do that
dissy: My argument above gives me reason to think they are specifically Israelite judges, the one that uses Deuteronomy 1:16-18 and Leviticus 19:15. The passages directly correlate with Psalm 82:2-4
Scripture: Deuteronomy 1:16-18 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<16> And at that time I instructed your judges, saying, 'hear out your fellow men, and then judge fairly between a man and between his brother and between his opponent who is a resident alien. <17> You must not be partial in your judgment; hear out the small person as also the great person; do not be intimidated by any person, because the judgment is God's; and the case that is too difficult for you, bring it to me, and I will hear it out.' <18> And so I instructed you at that time concerning all of the things that you should do.
Scripture: Leviticus 19:15 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)
<15> "'You shall not do injustice in judgment; you shall not show partiality to the powerless; you shall not give preference to the powerful; you shall judge your fellow citizen with justice.
Darwin: Deuteronomy 13:6-9
Scripture: Deuteronomy 13:6-9 - New King James Version (NKJV)<6> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, <7> of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, <8> you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; <9> but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people.
Darwin: Judgment in the law was not solely given to the judges
dissy: How does that respond to my argument?
Darwin: You're claiming only judges judge.
Darwin: Thus, Psalm 82 can only be judges.
Darwin: I gave you an example of people judging who are not judges
dissy: My argument was that it is referring specifically to the official Israelite elder-judges because the passages I listed above directly and explicitly correlate with Psalm 82:2-4
Scripture: Psalm 82:2-4 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<2> "How long will you judge unjustlyand show favoritism to the wicked? Selah<3> Judge on behalf of the helpless and the orphan; provide justice to the afflicted and the poor. <4> Rescue the helpless and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
dissy: I also may have some irrational reason to think they correspond lol. After reading Psalm 82, I randomly decided to re-read Deuteronomy just for fun, and in the first chapter I found the correlation by chance.
Darwin: Context of Leviticus 19 is "all the congregation"
Darwin: Vs2
Darwin: So, he tells all the congregation to "do no injustice in judgment" vs 15
dissy: True, it doesn't seem to absolutely follow that only magistrates are responsible in doing this. But the chapter addressing the congregation of Israel doesn't follow that it is talking about ordinary men either, since ordinary men don't set weights for punishments like it says of "judges" in verse 35-36. What's your response to my use of Deuteronomy 1:16-18? It's much more explicit, "And at that time I instructed your judges..."
Scripture: Deuteronomy 1:16-18 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<16> And at that time I instructed your judges, saying, 'hear out your fellow men, and then judge fairly between a man and between his brother and between his opponent who is a resident alien. <17> You must not be partial in your judgment; hear out the small person as also the great person; do not be intimidated by any person, because the judgment is God's; and the case that is too difficult for you, bring it to me, and I will hear it out.' <18> And so I instructed you at that time concerning all of the things that you should do.
Darwin: Exodus 21:1 "them" = all Israel, not just judges. Exodus 23:3
Scripture: Exodus 21:1 - New King James Version (NKJV)<1> "Now these are the judgments which you shall set before them:
Scripture: Exodus 23:3 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<3> You shall not show partiality to a poor man in his dispute.
Darwin: Immediately after, Exodus 23:4
Scripture: Exodus 23:4 - New King James Version (NKJV)<4> "If you meet your enemy's ox or his donkey going astray, you shall surely bring it back to him again.
dissy: That's for people who are testifying
Darwin: So, only people who are testifying....exodus 23:4
dissy: Testifying isn't judging
Darwin: You put restraints that aren't there
dissy: Are you sure? Did you forget the read the verse directly before Exodus 23:3?
Scripture: Exodus 23:3 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<3> You will not be partial to a powerless person in his legal dispute.
Darwin: I read it. How about the beginning of the verse. That only applies to witnesses?
dissy: Please read Exodus 23:2
Scripture: Exodus 23:2 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<2> You will not follow a majority for evil, and you will not testify concerning a legal dispute to turn aside after a majority to pervert justice.
Darwin: So, only witnesses should not follow a majority for evil?
dissy: Hmm? No one should. How does that affect my argument?
Darwin: To be consistent, that's your argument. It only applies to witnesses.
Darwin: And verse 3 doesn't apply to judges, only witnesses.
dissy: Yes, it applies to people who are witnessing and testifying. It says don't be partial in your testimony
Darwin: Very bad translation
dissy: What do you prefer? NKJV and NASB also agree
Darwin: It doesn't say that in the Hebrew. NKJV Exodus 23:3
Scripture: Exodus 23:3 - New King James Version (NKJV)<3> You shall not show partiality to a poor man in his dispute.
dissy: Amen. How does this disagree with me?
Darwin: I was talking about vs 3, you vs 2, sorry
Darwin: Verse 3 is a law to Israel ("them"), not just witnesses
dissy: Ok, then I don't see any reason to think it refers to judging. Probably testifying, because that's what they are doing in the last verse
dissy: And there aren't any paragraph breaks
Darwin: Ok then, here we have an example of doing something that is as in Psalm 82 and it doesn't have to be a judge
dissy: We don't, since they aren't judging. It doesn't fulfill Psalm 82:2.
dissy: The entirety of NASB Exodus 23:1-3 iii commands people not to make false reports or testify by being partial to the poor. Justice enters into that paragraph, but judging does not
Scripture: Exodus 23:1-3 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<1> "'You will not spread a false report. Do not lift your hand with the wicked to be a malicious witness. <2> You will not follow a majority for evil, and you will not testify concerning a legal dispute to turn aside after a majority to pervert justice. <3> You will not be partial to a powerless person in his legal dispute.
Darwin: "Do JUSTICE to the afflicted and needy." 82:3
dissy: Lol
dissy: Again, doesn't satisfy 82:2, and I don't think they're doing justice in the same sense
Darwin: Think what you will. As I said, you add (Proverbs 30:6) to 82 what's not there.
Scripture: Proverbs 30:6 - New King James Version (NKJV)<6> Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
dissy: Ok, what did I add? Pretty sure I just made the observation that two passages directly correlate, and therefore have the same subject matter
Darwin: That it's limited to only judges
dissy: That isn't an addition. It's an interpretation supported by the argument I gave you from the passages I listed above. You addressed the Leviticus one, but not the Deuteronomy one, the one that is very explicit about it being the Israelite judges that were appointed
dissy: And they don't only partially satisfy Psalm 82:2-4, like you've given for the passages of ordinary men, they satisfy all of it, all in the same passage:
- judging
- judging unrighteously
- being partial in their judgment with poorer/weaker people
Scripture: Psalm 82:2-4 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)
<2> "How long will you judge unjustlyand show favoritism to the wicked? Selah<3> Judge on behalf of the helpless and the orphan; provide justice to the afflicted and the poor. <4> Rescue the helpless and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
Darwin: John 7:24
Scripture: John 7:24 - New King James Version (NKJV)<24> Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
Darwin: Is Joshua only talking to judges here? Because, only judges can judge?
dissy: I encourage you to re-read my arguments since you really seem to be misunderstanding them
Darwin: I read again and see again you limit the text to only speaking to judges or rulers. Nothing demands that, including Deuteronomy 1. Likewise, earlier you argued Leviticus 19:35-36 only applies to judges. The overall context explicitly says otherwise ("speak to all the congregation" vs 2), and the verse immediately before (verse 34) is obviously speaking to "all the congregation" (vs 2) as they all "were strangers in the land of Egypt" (vs 34). It's not a statement to just judges.Moreover, as in the actions of Psalm 82, the actions of having honest scales, etc. (19:35-36), is not limited to judges (e.g. merchants). And, as I illustrated above via Deuteronomy 13, "do no injustice in judgment" (19:35) applies to all the congregation as well as the judges.
Nonetheless, as I have already pointed out via Exodus 18/Nehemiah 9, you don't need Psalm 82 to see men (not just judges) are called gods. Some might argue they are called gods there because they ruled over Israel. Fair enough, nevertheless, this includes "all the people" (//"all the gods") Nehemiah 9:10/Exodus 18:11.
Mankind is given power/dominion over His creation (Genesis 1:26-27/Psalm 8:5-8). So, we really shouldn't be surprised that men (not just judges) are called gods. Angels are also called gods (Psalm 8:5/elohiym//Hebrews 2:7). We also have Job 41:25NRSV, iv MEV v "gods are afraid".
Scripture: Leviticus 19:35-36 - New King James Version (NKJV)<35> 'You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume. <36> You shall have honest scales, honest weights, an honest ephah, and an honest hin: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt.
Scripture: Genesis 1:26 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<26> Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Darwin: Please forgive me. Having re-read once again, perhaps you didn't miss Joshua's point. Either way, whether Psalm 82 is addressing men (no particular class) or particularly judges, it's the same point either way: men (judges are men) are called gods.
Darwin: "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came . . . ." That's the point.
dissy: Where are you getting human gods from Exodus 18 and Nehemiah 9?
Darwin: all the gods . . . behaved proudly (Exodus)all the people . . . acted proudly (Nehemiah)
dissy: It's clearly the Egyptians in Exodus 18:10 acting proudly in both
Scripture: Exodus 18:10 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<10> And Jethro said, "Blessed be Yahweh, who has delivered you from the hand of Egypt and from the hand of Pharaoh—who has delivered the people from under the hand of Egypt.
dissy: They seem to be the most likely antecedent if you read the text
dissy:Likewise, earlier you argued Leviticus 19:35-36 only applies to judges. The overall context explicitly says otherwise ("speak to all the congregation" vs 2), and the verse immediately before (verse 34) is obviously speaking to "all the congregation" (vs 2) as they all "were strangers in the land of Egypt" (vs 34). It's not a statement to just judges.
Nah, my point was that this refers only to merchants and doesn't concern every individual in Israel. So you aren't going to be able to use verse 15
Scripture: Leviticus 19:35-36 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<35> "'You shall not commit injustice in regulation, in measurement, in weight, or volume. <36> You must have honest balances, honest weights, an honest ephah, and an honest hin; I am Yahweh your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt.
dissy:
Moreover, as in the actions of Psalm 82, the actions of having honest scales, etc. (19:35-36), is not limited to judges (e.g. merchants)
I agree!
And, as I illustrated above via Deuteronomy 13, "do no injustice in judgment" (19:35) applies to all the congregation as well as the judges.
OK, it looks like you missed my argument again. My argument was that Psalm 82:1-4 directly corresponds with Deuteronomy 1:16-17. It has extremely little correspondence with Deuteronomy 13, so that cannot be a counter-argument
Scripture: Psalm 82:1-4 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<1> God stands in the divine assembly; he administers judgment in the midst of the gods. <2> "How long will you judge unjustlyand show favoritism to the wicked? Selah<3> Judge on behalf of the helpless and the orphan; provide justice to the afflicted and the poor. <4> Rescue the helpless and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."
Scripture: Deuteronomy 1:16-17 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)
<16> And at that time I instructed your judges, saying, 'hear out your fellow men, and then judge fairly between a man and between his brother and between his opponent who is a resident alien. <17> You must not be partial in your judgment; hear out the small person as also the great person; do not be intimidated by any person, because the judgment is God's; and the case that is too difficult for you, bring it to me, and I will hear it out.'
dissy:
Either way, whether Psalm 82 is addressing men (no particular class) or particularly judges, it's the same point either way: men (judges are men) are called gods.
"If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came . . . ." That's the point.But there clearly is a large point of contention here. Because I don't think that their title of elohim/theos refers to divinity, I think it refers to earthly power.
Scripture: Isaiah 3:13-15 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)<13> Yahweh takes his stand to conduct a legal case and takes his stand to judge the peoples. <14> Yahweh enters into judgment with the elders of his people and its princes."And you! You have devoured the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses! <15> Why do you crush my people and grind the face of the poor?"declares the Lord Yahweh of hosts.
Scripture: Psalm 82:1 - Lexham English Bible (LEB)
<1> God stands in the divine assembly; he administers judgment in the midst of the gods.
Darwin: The Hebrew is interesting in this verse. "God [elohiym] stands in the congregation of God [el] in the midst of gods [elohiym] He judges.
- Psalm 82:
1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
2 How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked? Selah
3 Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.5 They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.6 I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.
7 But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”8 Arise, O God, judge the earth;
For You shall inherit all nations.
I. Literal
A. Scripture Cannot Be Broken.
When Christ is confronted by the Jews "for blasphemy, and because you, being a man, make yourself God"1 in John 10:33, Jesus' response is quite profound.
Is it not written in your law, "I said, 'You are gods'"? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, "You are blaspheming," because I said, "I am the Son of God"? (John 10:34-36)
What is Jesus' point when He says to them "and the Scripture cannot be broken"? What is He stressing? He is emphasizing that Scripture means what it says. In other words, when the Scripture "called them gods" it means what it says, "You are gods," just as it says. This is a very literal approach to Scripture.
You can see what Jesus meant regarding "the Scripture cannot be broken" via His argument. He was combating their claim of blasphemy, that is, that He was claiming to be God, and He argues, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, "You are gods'?" So, Jesus' point in responding to the Jews is basically, "Your law calls men gods," as He continued, "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came . . . ."
So then, Jesus begins to take the air out of their ballooned blasphemy argument by pointing to the fact that Scripture calls men gods. He doesn't bother explaining this concept, or arguing that they aren't Gods as the one and only true God is God (Isaiah 31:3; 44:6-8).2 No, instead, He emphasizes the statement and dictates, when it says men are gods, it means they are gods,3 "the Scripture cannot be broken."
This is the only honest approach to Scripture. It does not break (John 10:35) or destroy4 the text. Christ's "Scripture cannot be broken" statement, especially in the context in which He says it, reveals Christ's view of God's word. It is acutely5 literal, and this is the only perspective that saves.6
- NKJV does not do well at translating John 10:33. NKJV reads, "The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God." The Jews were obviously dead set against Christ's claim to be God. There is no way they meant it the way the NKJV has it, with capitalization for "You" (twice), "Man" and "Yourself". This capitalization dictates deity, and the Jews were in no way acknowledging Christ as God.
- See also Genesis 30:2; Deuteronomy 4:39; 1 Kings 8:60; 2 Kings 19:15 (Isaiah 37:16); Job 9:8 (Isaiah 44:24); Psalm 83:18; 86:8-10; 136:4; 148:13; Isaiah 45:5-6, 14, 18, 21-22; 46:9; Ezekiel 28:2; 1 Timothy 6:16; Revelation 15:4.
- Scripture calls men gods in Psalm 82, and it calls angels gods in Psalm 8:5 ("angels" [LXX ἀγγέλους] Hebrew is אֱלהִים ['elohiym], "gods." See Hebrews 2:7 ἀγγέλους). Note also Deuteronomy 10:17; Psalm 97:7; 138:1. See also in the Hebrew text Exodus 21:6; 22:7-8 (English vs. 8-9) in which אֱלהִים ('elohiym) is typically translated "judges." See also Psalm 29:1 and 89:7 where "mighty ones" and "sons of the mighty" are more literally, "sons of Gods," בְּנֵי אֵלִים (benêy 'êliym).
Also, Job 41:25 (H41:17) is more literally, "From his raising gods fear. From crashings, they purify themselves." מִשֵּׂתוֹ יָגוּרוּ אֵלִים מִשְּׁבָרִים יִתְחַטָּאוּ (missêto yâguru 'êliym mishshvâriym yitchattâ'u). The word for "gods" here is אֵלִים ('êliym). - The Greek word for "broken" in John 10:35, λυθηναι (luthênai), can also be translated "loosed" (e.g. λυθηναι, Luke 13:16; Revelation 20:3) or "destroyed" (e.g. John 2:19, λυσατε [lusate]). It is translated "break" elsewhere as well (e.g. Matthew 5:19, λυση [lusê]).
- acutely - "marked by keen discernment or intellectual perception" (www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acutely)
- Jesus was a man of faith (Hebrews 12:2), and even He was saved. He didn't have any sin of His own to be saved from (Hebrews 4:15), but became sin itself (2 Corinthians 5:21). Even though "it was not possible that He should be held by" the pains of death (Acts 2:23), and He had the power to take back His life (John 10:18), He nonetheless was saved from death. As it is written of Him,
who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear (Hebrews 5:7).
- [NASB] Exodus 23:
1 “You shall not bear a false report; do not join your hand with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. 2 You shall not follow the masses in doing evil, nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after a multitude in order to pervert justice; 3 nor shall you be partial to a poor man in his dispute.
- [NRSV] Job 41:
When it raises itself up the gods are afraid;
at the crashing they are beside themselves. - [MEV] Job 41:
When he raises up himself even the gods are afraid;
because of his crashings they are beside themselves.
[...] Indeed. The verse is better said as "God stands in the congregation of God in the midst of gods He judges." [...]