Daniel P. Barron

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Monday, September 2, 2019

This log has been modified for spelling, formatting, and offensive language. Hyperlinks have been added, and it has been reviewed by Darwin Fish.

tsarbomba: CBN is radicalizing "Christians." LOCK THEM ALL UP.
Easymoney: https://www.dailywire.com/news/46299/ocasio-cortez-silent-sri-lanka-after-politicizing-ryan-saavedra
Buzzard: ~ Ocasio-Cortez Silent On Sri Lanka After Politicizing New Zealand Terror Attacks | Daily Wire
tsarbomba: lol Imagine being so [very] stupid that you think Ben Shapiro's fake news blog has any credibility whatsoever.
Easymoney: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/sri-lanka-bombings-anti-christian-terrorism/
Buzzard: ~ Sri Lanka Bombings: Clinton and Obama Tweets Don't Acknowledge Anti-Christian Terorrism | National Review
Easymoney: Lock them up.
tsarbomba: lol "Anti-christian terrorism." The Christians ARE the terrorists. https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/right-wing-extremism-linked-to-every-2018-extremist-murder-in-the-us-adl-finds
Buzzard: ~ Right-Wing Extremism Linked to Every 2018 Extremist Murder in the U.S., ADL Finds | Anti-Defamation League
tsarbomba: We literally just caught ANOTHER MAGAterroristi yesterday.
Daniel: Right-wing does not equal christian.
Easymoney: Nice whataboutism.
phown: Hrm. H0h0h0.
tsarbomba: Just so happens that's what they all are. Kinda strange, right?
Daniel: Most self-described Christians do not actually believe the Bible.
tsarbomba: It's almost as if the prevailing narrative from the MAGAcult is exactly backwards. From reality. Imagine that. MAGA's opinion is diametrically opposed to objective reality. I could have never predicted that. :D By the way, check out the tattoos of the MAGAterrorist they caught yesterday. BIGLY crucifix. Just sayin'.
Daniel: Having a crucifix tattoo does not a christian make.
Easymoney: https://youtu.be/IfXG4q1D8hA
arleigh: [YouTube] ● Tucker: Left struggles to say the word 'Christians'... ● Views: 235,780 ● Up: 12,189 ● Down: 360
tsarbomba: Right, and wearing a hijab does not a Muslim make. Yet, we have the white supremacist republicans failing to get that fact. lol Imagine thinking cucker tardsonii the actual white supremacist has any credibility outside the foxcult.iii
Daniel: Well, all self-described Muslims go to hell.
Easymoney: More whataboutism from tsardumba.
tsarbomba: Yawn. Dogmatism. Low-effort. Daniel, when you realize why you reject all other gods, you'll understand why I reject yours.
Daniel: Doesn't matter if they aren't actually believing the Quran; the fact that they think they do is enough to say they aren't in the truth of the Bible.
tsarbomba: Now flip the words "Quran"(sic) and "Bible." And say it again.
Daniel: Sure, but the Quran is a book of lies.
tsarbomba: Yeah, that's what I thought. :D Now replace "Quran" with "Bible" and you'll begin to understand why the majority of the planet rejects your cult.
Daniel: And actually, most if not all Muslims I chat with will say that believing the Bible is part of believing the Quran.
tsarbomba: lol. No.
Daniel: I guess the more interesting tidbit here is that you'd like to associate Christianity with right-wing-ism and that it is the Bible you are against specifically; not a political party per se.
BreakDeck: Daniel, not really sure what you're trying to say here. Evangelical Christians in America overwhelmingly support Donald Trump and his flavor of Conservatism. Your "no true Scottsman" argument is stupid. Christians are not standing up against Trumpism, and they overwhelmingly support him, so if you want to distance your faith from Trump,iv you need to start resisting him like you actually disagree with him.
Daniel: BreakDeck, I'm saying that most self-described Christians are not actually Christians. We at A True Church do not support Trump.v
Easymoney: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/04/23/is-wapo-joking-with-this-headline-about-sri-lankas-easter-terror-attack-n2545167
Buzzard: ~ Is WaPo Joking With This Headline About Sri Lanka's Easter Terror Attack?
Easymoney: No.
Daniel: I'm personally glad Trump won, but I didn't vote for him. (or anyone)
BreakDeck: Whataboutisms and gatekeeping aren't helpful. You don't get to decide who is and isn't a Christian. If most "Christians" sound like they belong to a different group than yourself, find a new word to describe yourself, because everyone who follows Jesus and the Bible is a Christian, no matter how bigoted they are.
Daniel: BreakDeck, yes I can judge who is a Christian, and I do so by comparing what they say and do to what the Bible says. These people you want to call christian do not actually believe the Bible; they don't actually believe in Joshua Christ.
BreakDeck: I guess I should rephrase. You CAN judge who is and isn't Christian based entirely on your own opinions, but that exercise is completely futile, because everyone who have decided isn't a Christian will never side with you - they will keep calling themselves Christians, and the public at large will agree with them.
tsarbomba: "No true scotsman" has been debunked so often that I can't believe even today's limpwristed Christians attempt to use it.
Daniel: BreakDeck, it's not my opinion; it's literally what Scripture says.
BreakDeck: It's kind of like saying "you can't blow eastward to change the rotation of the earth". Nobody is stopping you from blowing until your face turns blue - it just does't do anything.
tsarbomba: I suspect it's just another symptom of the cultism inherent in neo-abrahamism.
Daniel: BreakDeck, since I haven't warned you yet, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world!
Buzzard: ~ A True Church
BreakDeck: What I am saying is that nobody [cares] who you think is or isn't a Christian. "Christian" means whatever society at large believe it means.
tsarbomba: Daniel needs to be banned until he learns this channel is not for his cult-proselytization.
Daniel: BreakDeck, the world is wrong.
tsarbomba: If he cannot debate in good faith he has no place here. Same as the MAGAcultists like j and the fat man or datacuck2.
Daniel: I can debate, and I think that's what I'm doing right now.
BreakDeck: So long as people calling themselves "Christians" are acting like bigots and heathens, you can't distance yourself from them with a wave of the hand. You need to confront these people and set them straight.
Daniel: BreakDeck, I do confront false Christians.
tsarbomba: Far-right terrorism is a feature to people like "Daniel," not a bug.
BreakDeck: Then do that, and stop making [bad] whataboutisms to distance your ideology from it's malicious side.
Daniel: We at A True Church do not support or condone those kinds of acts of violence.
tsarbomba: lol. You're a cultist. Cultism invariably leads to violence.
Daniel: BreakDeck, you'd probably find the truth to be more offensive than what you currently think is "Christianity."
tsarbomba: Violence is violence. There is no "kind" of violence.
Daniel: BreakDeck, for example we believe women should not speak in church,vi that a man may have multiple wives, that slavery is not wrong, etc..
BreakDeck: If you call yourself a Christian, and you don't see the actions of other Christians (regardless of your opinions of their legitimacy) as something worth taking some responsibility for, then you are just as much of a problem as these evangelical MAGA people.
tsarbomba: As I said, he's a cultist.
Daniel: Why should I take responsibility for the beliefs of false Christians?
tsarbomba: He cannot be reached.
BreakDeck: Because nobody falls for your fallacious "not actual Christians" argument.
Daniel: Last year, I picketed the harvest crusade and Lord willing I will do it again this year.
tsarbomba: Obsequience of women is extra-biblical.
BreakDeck: What I am saying is that you are right, but your argument is terrible.
tsarbomba: Anyone who's ever actually read the bible knows this.
BreakDeck: You can be correct about something, but also clueless about the specifics. Are most Christians terrible at being Christians? You bet!
Daniel: You both are not making very good arguments.
tsarbomba: The parable of Mary Magdalene thoroughly refutes the idea of female subversion to men. This is pretty much comparative religion 101.
Daniel: Paul teaches us that women are indeed to be submissive to men.
tsarbomba: No, Paul absolutely does not teach that.
BreakDeck: Are they still Christians? Yeah. Nobody cares about your gatekeeping Daniel, they're still Christians. They're bad Christians, and so long as you follow their book, you need to resist them, not handwave them away like they're not your problem.
Daniel: BreakDeck, they are false Christians.
tsarbomba: In before cherry-picked acontextual bible quotes from the epistles of Paul.
Daniel: BreakDeck, I'm not hand waving. I warn non-Christians and false-Christians alike.
tsarbomba: Daniel, you are a false christian.
Daniel: Prove it.
tsarbomba: You choose beliefs that are not evident in the bible.
Daniel: Prove it with Scripture.
tsarbomba: You do not understand of your own cult. Ignorance seems to be a comfortable place for you. As it is with most "god of the gaps' faux-Christians.
Daniel: No proof then, okay.
tsarbomba: I already proved your extra-biblical assertion of female subservience to be wrong.
Daniel: No you didn't. Show me the Scripture.
tsarbomba: It's common knowledge. I'm expecting you to cherry-pick unrelated OT verses for me to laugh at.
Daniel: "Common knowledge" is wrong.
tsarbomba:

Daniel: You both are not making very good arguments.
tsarbomba: The parable of Mary Magdalene thorough refutes the idea of female subversion to men.

Already done. Your refusal to actually read the bible is not my problem.
BreakDeck: Holy [cow] Daniel, are you suggesting that most Christians aren't real Christians because they view women as equals? You're sounding further from Jesus than the Bible now...
Daniel: That's not scripture, show me the chapter and verse.
tsarbomba: But it does make you a faux-christian.
Daniel: BreakDeck, that's one thing they have wrong, of many other things. Although I will say men and women can be saved equally.vii
tsarbomba: lol If you can't locate the magdalene parable you're even more of a show-christian than I assumed.
Daniel: But they have different roles. Tsarbomba, you're the one making the claim. You provide it.
tsarbomba: And I note the total lack of scriptural support for your claim, as well. No, I'm not.
BreakDeck: Tsarbomba, no, he's a Christian alright. As I said, everyone who calls themselves a Christian is one, because faith is self-decided. Daniel is your typical Christian: judgmental, misogynistic, takes no responsibility for the actions of his brothers and sisters.
tsarbomba: I'm saying YOU are making an extra-biblical claim. And you are.
Daniel: Here ya go. http://atruechurch.info/women.html
Buzzard: ~ A True Church - Scriptural View Of Women
tsarbomba: Your failure to find any relevant scripture showing otherwise is all I need. lol A cult blog. Sorry, try again.
Daniel: BreakDeck, false Christians are not my brothers and sisters.
tsarbomba: You don't get a chance to spew advocacy blogs at me. It shows me you fail to understand the material.
Daniel: That article is full of references to Scripture.
tsarbomba: And as you are a show-christian I am not surprised in the least. Christian LARP.viii
Daniel: You are acting like an obstinate child.
tsarbomba: No wonder you were disowned by your parents for joining a cult.
Daniel: I'm not disowned.
tsarbomba: Really? When was the last time you spoke to your mother? Was it more recently than I did?ix (nope)
BreakDeck: Daniel, you're a woman-hater, and you don't actually read scripture yourself - obviously.
Daniel: If text counts, a day or two ago.
tsarbomba: He's a "Christianity for dummies" show-christian.
Daniel: BreakDeck, I don't hate women.
tsarbomba: He finds a cult blog and bases 100% of his understanding on it. This is why Christianity is hemorrhaging adherents. Because of christian LARPers like Daniel.
ian: "Prove it using the book that says don't blindly follow books!"
Daniel: Still no proof from Scripture on your part.
ian: Interesting trap.
Daniel: And I have provided proof to my side, which you refuse to read because of .. reasons.
BreakDeck: Daniel, no, you definitely hate woman. You don't use the word "hate" because you like to sugarcoat your bigotry, but you view women as lesser than men (men's property even), so yeah, you're a terrible person.
Daniel: Well, I hate everybody, men and women alike. But yes, women were created to be man's help. That doesn't mean I hate them more.
BreakDeck: Daniel, women are human beings. They were not created for you. Your view that women are inferior and should be subordinate is a form of hatred.
Daniel: No, it's a "form of" actually believing the Bible. This is what real Christianity is.
BreakDeck: This is what your personal view of Christianity is. It is old-fashioned, it is unfair, and it is not compatible with the modern world. Real Christians adapt Christ's teachings to the modern world.
Daniel: BreakDeck, it's literally what the Bible says.
BreakDeck: You are a regressive little fundamentalist.
Daniel: The Bible teaches that Christians are not to conform to this world.x
BreakDeck: The bible also says to keep your faith to yourself and avoid preaching in public for the mere sake of being heardxi - but here you are.
Daniel: And now we have here, a non-Christian defining what a Christian is, to conform to his political narrative. It says no such thing; it says the opposite: that the gospel is to be preached everywhere.
BreakDeck: Matthew 6:5
Daniel: Yes, that says pray, and it says don't pray in public for the purpose of being seen.
BreakDeck: Also, Daniel, you've already made it clear that you think that everyone in the entire world is a "non-Christian" other than yourself - so calling me a "non-Christian" isn't really an effective insult.
Daniel: 1) I'm not praying here, and 2) it's not wrong to pray in public. (Christ gave thanks for food in publicxii) I'm not the only one, but we are very few.
BreakDeck: Because you are going to "no true scotsman" the living [daylights] out of this argument no matter what.
Daniel: Those are your words. There are a few true believers. Just as the Bible says.xiii
ian: "Real" followers of Jesus wouldn't put faith in specific books or religions though right... which is why Jesus was breaking religious rules left and right.
Daniel: Christ is the Bible.
BreakDeck: And quite honestly, it's a relief to see backwards regressives like Daniel refuse to unite with other Christians, because that means that their flavor of religious bigotry will never escape the fringes.
Daniel: You can't follow Christ without following the Bible.
BreakDeck: It's a good thing that most Christians aren't like Daniel.
Daniel: Okay well, my type of Christian doesn't support trump, so I dunno what that says about your political narrative.
ian: Paul didn't have a bible to follow. Was Paul not a follower of Christ?
Daniel: Ian, yes he did.
ian: The Torah you mean?
Daniel: The Bible is God, it is from everlasting.
ian: Usually when we say the bible we mean the book that everyone else calls the bible. Not some other ethereal bible.
Daniel: I mean Genesis to Revelation.
ian: Revelation did not exist in Paul's time.
Daniel: Yes it did.xiv
ian: How could it have?
Daniel: Because it is God.
ian: LOL You're absolutely wrong, do you know why? I have 100% clear cut proof that you're wrong.
Daniel: Cool, show it.
ian: Because it is God.
Ian drops the mic
Daniel sighs.
ian: Indeed. Paul's letters didn't exist before he wrote them.
Daniel: Yes they did.
ian: Yea well you were wrong before you were wrong too.
BreakDeck: Daniel, this isn't about Trump. "Not supporting Trump" is preferable, but when you mix it with "women exist to serve men" you still turn out to be a bad person.
ian: By the way, read 2 Timothy 3:16-17..xv all scripture (stuff written down) is god-breathed.
ian: And I was right before I existed.
Daniel: BreakDeck, this particular conversation began from the false accusation that Trump is supported by Christians.
ian: Before Abraham was, I am. *waves hand magically*
Daniel: Ian, John 1:1 says that God is the Word of God, and Matthew 4:4xvi says we must believe all of it.
USA_: He is by those who believe he is gonna actually solve problems. They are in error, but I am a Christian. I have been wrong sometimes about things.
Daniel: I think trump is better than Clinton, and I'm glad he won, but I don't support him and I didn't vote for him.
USA_: I think it would be hard to top Bill.xvii
ian: That's not what it says, it says the Word is God, not that God is the word. If we're going to read Scripture at its most superficial level we should at the very least get the words right.
USA_: And Bill was a philanderer. Wow. So was King David.
ian: Jesus came to break people out of superficially reading stuff and understanding the underlying meaning, ironic that many of his followers are back doing what the Pharisees did.
Daniel: John 1:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

ian: Golden Calf.

Daniel: John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Read these carefully.
Daniel: "Word was God" equals "God is the Word."
ian: God is not the word of God, the word of God is God. You're assuming it's commutative, all while reading it superficially.
USA_: God wants those who are clearly not Christ to "be Christ" to someone. Ourselves can't do it. It must be by his hand.
ian: Try to crack the underlying meaning.
Daniel: If the Word is God, that necessarily means God is the Word.
ian: I'm not saying I know what it is, just saying, we should read things deeper, especially a spiritual/philosophical text. No it does not. "Necessarily."
Daniel: That's like saying 2+2 is 4 but 4 isn't 2+2. I don't think you know what commutative means.
USA_: Read it again and read Gen 1.
Paulus: Back to the stage.
Daniel: No matter the mathematical system, the order of sides of an equal sign does not matter.
USA_: The word in the beginning was the Holy Spirit.
Daniel: The Holy Spirit is God.
Paulus: 4 isn't equal 3.
USA_: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. In gen 1 it talks about all three.
Paulus: OIL is shrinking - on the last days before judgement day - you need a filled OIL can my dears - said Jesus. You have faith USA_.
USA_: I accept what is written. When Gen 1 says "let us" he doesn't mean the angels for we do not possess their image. When it says the Spirit of God.. It means the holy spirit..
ian: Daniel, but you're assuming literally every logical proposition is entirely commutative, which is not the case. If I take money from you, my bank account goes up. Therefore, if my bank account goes up, I need to take money from you.
Paulus: Symmetry isn't all.
ian: If only we knew who wrote John, and they were alive today, we could ask them what they meant..
USA_: Most people don't get that phytomatter existed before sunlight and so on.
Daniel: Ian, what you have just described is not an equation, it's a function.
USA_: Light existed but it was the Light of God.
Paulus: Light equals Jesus. Therefore he exists from the beginning and can't get removed by mankind.
USA_: Vestigial organs we inherited from before the fall.. When we ate nothing but green things. Or were restored after the creation of humans. Which occurred sometime before A.D. 68. Before that it was the chosen and the not chosen. It's likely it was inherited from the time before the fall. It could be certain vestigial organs serve a function in the womb. Our canine teeth were inherited from the fall.
MaxSharp: Hmm.
USA_: Strictly. Yeah. They keep killing babies I guess they'll never know!

  1. "MAGA." "Make America Great Again."
  2. Tucker Carlson. "Cuck" means cuckold and "tard" means retard.
  3. Fox as in Fox News Channel.
  4. Donald Trump, the sitting U.S. President at the time of this conversation.
  5. Or any other politicians for that matter.
  6. 1 Timothy 2:
    11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

    1 Corinthians 14:

    34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

  7. Galatians 3:
    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

  8. "LARP." "Live Action Role Play."
  9. He didn't. He may have called her, but she didn't answer.
  10. Romans 12:
    2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

  11. Matthew 6:
    5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

  12. Matthew 14:
    18 He said, “Bring them here to Me.” 19 Then He commanded the multitudes to sit down on the grass. And He took the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, He blessed and broke and gave the loaves to the disciples; and the disciples gave to the multitudes.

  13. Matthew 7:
    13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.


  14. Darwin: Indeed, the book of Revelation has always existed ("Forever, O Lord,
    Your word is settled in heaven." Psalm 119:89). But, whether Paul ever had access to it, we don't know. It never says.

  15. 2 Timothy 3:
    16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

  16. Matthew 4:
    4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

  17. Bill Clinton, a former U.S. President.

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