Daniel P. Barron

what unhappiness you must dwell in

Saturday, November 24, 2018

Quoted is a conversation from #LRH on EFNet.i LRH stands for "L0de Radio Hour" which is a weekly live show broadcast on YouTube. Some lines have been altered or removed because they weren't relevant or used offensive language. The context is that rondito had messaged me in private saying he had been reading atruechurch.info and that he was interested. Some of the footnotes contain Darwin's correctionsii to things I said.

lek: who would win in a modern day US rebellion, rebels or gov?
rondito: satan controls the entire world but america is his throne
rondito: gov would win easy
dpb: rondito, can you back that up with scripture?
rondito: i am not learned in scripture
rondito: i have faith
dpb: ok, but you are making some claims that require proof
rondito: prove me wrong dpb
rondito: i respect u
rondito: i read ur site
dpb: it's not my site btw
rondito: i love it
rondito: oic
dpb: my friend Darwin writes it
rondito: it contains mad truth
bb420: where yo site dpb
dpb: http://atruechurch.info/
stratum: dpb: what is your view on the theory that John 19:26-27iii is indicating that Jesus was married to a male disciple?
stratum: as in 'son-in-law'
stratum: 'mother-in-law'
rondito: scripture says fags will burn
rondito: i know that
stratum: rondito: that isnt accurate
rondito: it is paul wrote it
dpb: well.. God is married to the churchiv which is those who believe
stratum: rondito: it says individuals who are men who engage in sex with another man are bad -- it says nothing about chaste homosexuals
rondito: read letter to Corinth
rondito: untrue
bb420: Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed"
mobbb: you have any idea how boring the bible is?
dpb: some parts, sure
stratum: mobbb: theres some super cool stories in the bible
bb420: sounds like god was tryna grow some dank
mobbb: i know
m0ngk: your parents never gave you permission to smoke weed so you're turning to the bible
dpb: God never forbid the use of any drugs
mobbb: mana from heaven
lulzy: dpb: amen
m0ngk: yeah im sure you like to think that lol
dpb: there is no evidence that manna is drugs
rondito: god forbids drunkenness ie intoxication as such
dpb: ok, but God manufactured and distributed alcoholv which can make you drunk
rondito: it can
rondito: if u choose
dpb: He even says we must remember His death by drinking wine
rondito: drinking wine is not drunkenness
dpb: and doing drugs is not inherently drunkenness
rondito: trv
rondito: moderation
lek: atruechurch.info what did i just read
rondito: if not temperance
dpb: lek, the truth
lek: dpb looks like half true half judaism
dpb: modern judaism leads to hell
lek: no thanks
dpb: Christians are the true Jews
lulzy: lek: #ATRUECHURCH's main goal is to expell all the false teachers out there
rondito: islam denies the moshiach christ
lulzy: you should give them a listen sometime
rondito: just like judaism
lek: we dont deny jesus (pbuh)
lek: hes christ
lulzy: #ATRUECHURCH are the Atmosphere/Slug of the christian hip-hop worldvi
rondito: u deny he was god as man
dpb: islam leads to hell
lek: he was not god as man
mobbb: john allegro was the only atheist on the dead sea scrolls team, he revealed that the early christians were a mushroom fertility cult
rondito: satan lek
rondito: free urself
dpb: lek, http://atruechurch.info/quran.html
mobbb: they freaked out and kicked him off the team
dpb: if it's not in the 66 books of the Bible, take it with a grain of salt
lek: ok
lek: dpb what rationalizing did i just read
dpb: the book of islam contradicts itself
rondito: save ur soul rn pray to jesus from ur heart he will communicate your faith to yahweh through the holy spirit
lek: lol everyone else is wrong but a website made a couple of years ago is correct
dpb: it says to believe the Bible (which says Christ is God)
lek: LOL HY YOHRE ALL WRONG
dpb: most churches and religions lead to hell (just as the Bible says)
dpb: it says very few will believe
rondito: trv
dpb: the path to the kingdom of God is narrow
lek: prior to the founding if atruechurch.info what was the correct path?
dpb: the Bible is always the correct path
dpb: a true church is not the first group of believers
lek: "inspired by god" says so on the cover of the bible
lek: who knows who wrote it
rondito: fellowship is good but not required
bb420: the bible is a huge fiction
stratum: john 1:1vii says that, effectively, the bible IS god.
rondito: there are many roman sources confirming the bible and christ
rondito: maybe u read wikipedia lol
bb420: nah god is some alien nigga that rolled up in a ufo with lsd
dpb: that's correct stratum
dpb: God is an alien, yes. He is not from this world
bb420: how can there be a god in a infinite univeerse? is there infinite gods?
germy: there isnt a god
germy: theres not a god
rondito: its not ur job to understand
dpb: rondito, in Revelation 2 it mentions satan's throne,viii but i don't see how it connects to America
dpb: germy, you are a fool!
rondito: america will be gone
rondito: by that time dpb
dpb: bb420, God is infiniteix
germy: how am i a fool?
bb420: im with germy until i got some proof
dpb: rondito, ok but where does the Bible say America is Satan's throne?
dpb: germy, the Bible says that a fool says there is no Godx
rondito: it is evident in society do u not live in usa???
rondito: he will move on
rondito: america will perish
lulzy: dammit
germy: ok so the bible says a lot of crazy stuff
germy:

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

germy: Is it OK to call someone a fool?
dpb: yes
rondito: yes
m0ngk: lol at people denying there's a god
fkinglag: yes
rondito: you are foolish
rondito: repent now
rondito: tomorrow is not promised
bb420: show me some solid proof of an afterlife... when you die, you die lights out.... nothing....
dpb: rondito, i don't think you are saved
germy: i want more proof than blowing up an abortion clinic
germy: to convert
rondito: you cannot say that dpb without sinning
dpb: germy, you can only believe if God makes you believe
m0ngk: lol proof of an afterlife
rondito: God knows my heart
m0ngk: u dont need proof
stratum: the scripture says, somewhere, that if you need proof you dont need jesus
dpb: the heavens declare the glory of Godxi
bb420: the human brain dies when you do
germy: if there ever once was a god, then he is now truly dead
m0ngk: the spirit is not in the brain
rondito: it is a sin to speculate on judgement
bb420: there is no spirit
m0ngk: if that's what u think, then i feel sorry for u
dpb: rondito, you've been reading the website, is there anything on there with which you disagree?
bb420: i just want some proof
m0ngk: proof is in you and all around you
rondito: no dpbxii
germy: Very little hope I assure you. No. If a god of love and life ever did exist... he is long since dead. Someone... something, rules in his place.
rondito: i like it all
bb420: nah this world is [bad], how could there possibly be a god
rondito: i have shared it with my family
germy: there isnt one
m0ngk: you're looking at the world too narrowly then
dpb: rondito, it's just that most people do not believe, and i have no reason to think you are different. just because you've read the site doesn't mean we agree
dpb: and now you are making claims about satan that are not founded in the Bible
rondito: counsel me i respect your opinion
rondito: i speculate on the evil ones intent i may be wrong
rondito: it is unimportant
rondito: to say what satan does
dpb: then don't say it
rondito: i dont beoieve in america
rondito: i sont believe in murder inc
dpb: i don't like america either, and it very well may be satan's throne, but i don't know
rondito: ok fair enough
rondito: i am no prophet lol
m0ngk: if u don't like america you don't like freedom.
dpb: you are not free to have multiple wives in america
lek: freedumb
rondito: trv
dpb: you are not free to use drugs in america
bb420: but i can have my ar15 and a bunch of explosives
rondito: freedom cucks are retarded imo
lek: lol @ freedom and highest incarceration rate in the world
rondito: boot licking toadies
bb420: name another country where i can legally detonate explosives with my ar15
stratum: louisiana has a incarceration rate roughly 1200% higher than denmark
dpb: and if we're counting Canada as part of America, you aren't free to SPEAK!
m0ngk: u want multiple wives, go to islam. u want drugs? well, go to portugal i guess. but u can have multiple wives and use drugs in america, u just shouldn't get caught lol. but drugs are bad for you anyway. and multiple wives is just a headache
rondito: i have no care for countries
m0ngk: or go move to utah and be a mormon
rondito: this world is not my home
rondito: i am. passing through
dpb: m0ngk, a man who gets a wife gets a good thingxiii
rondito: one day i will meet my lord
bb420: nah wives cheat and steal your money
dpb: m0ngk, so you are basically saying, America is about freedom as long as you like the same things I like
dpb: so that's every country
rondito: there is NOTHING to gain from attachment to this world
m0ngk: i guess it depends on your definition of freedom
rondito: all is sufferingxiv
rondito: abchasing after the wind
dpb: true freedom is belief in the Bible
Clamkin: rondito smells like farts
rondito: agreed
dpb: if you don't believe in God, you are a slave to sinxv
rondito: lol
rondito: trv
dpb: m0ngk, islam leads to hell. they may have a few things right, like multiple wives and killing adulterers,xvi but they are yet another false religion
lek: some of you are bastards (born from sin)
lek: sucks for yall
dpb: we are all born sinnersxvii
lek: no
rondito: lek is controlled by islam dogma
dpb: all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
germy: there is no such thing as sin
lek: jesus didnt sin
dpb: you aren't Jesus
rondito: i am a sinner i will be cleansed one day
germy: there is no such thing as sin
stratum: Jesus stories do not sound like historical data. All gods are based on faith.
rondito: not in this world
lek: life is free for all
lek: eat or get eaten
m0ngk: there's no love in multiple wives. multiple wives is like, only for status and procreation.
dpb: it takes faith to believe the stuff that's not in the Bible
dpb: just a wrong kind of faith
lek: LIFE IS FREE FOR ALL
rondito: arrogant fools believe they know better than the word
lek: rape and kill
rondito: your veliefs are laughable
lek: hustle make money
dpb: m0ngk, wrong. it is a lack of love to deny a woman from marrying a man that already has a wife
m0ngk: lol
m0ngk: sure buddy
dpb: m0ngk, this is the plot of most western movies. Guy has to choose between two girls, one of which gets her heart broken
rondito: womem serve men
dpb: the Bible says there is no law against lovexviii
rondito: who would deny their role?
dpb: yes woman was created to be a help to man
rondito: trv
m0ngk: even where there is multiple wives, you have the wife #1. the head wife. this says something.
m0ngk: there is a reason why the bible says 1 man and 1 woman
rondito: my wife was a great service we loved despite her addiction and her deathxix
rondito: she believed
rondito: i will see her again
dpb: the Bible does not forbid having multiple wives, and many righteous men did indeed have multiple
abum: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
rondito: fools itc
rondito: mock god
rondito: none of my concern
rondito: save urself
dpb: you don't have to have a "head wife"
dpb: and even if you did, that doesn't mean you don't love the others
m0ngk: you can't love them all the same way
dpb: by this logic you shouldn't have more than one child
m0ngk: bad application of logic
abum: Or more than one pet
dpb: if a girl loves you, and she believes, it would be cruel to not marry herxx
m0ngk: personally i dont oppose multiple wives, if one can provide for all of them. or if there is some kind of working arrangement. but i wouldn't approve if they are clearly just vessels of procreation and unable to fulfill their own desires and goals in life. in other words, slaves.
m0ngk: yeah but love is 2 ways
lek: my grandfather had 4 wives
rondito: idk from multiple wives but it is not forbidden
rondito: i prefer one
rondito: i'm no good at math
dpb: m0ngk, the Bible says a husband should provide for his familyxxi
m0ngk: i agree dpb
dpb: clearly the wives i am describing are not like slaves, if they are being married because they love the man
rondito: people don't believe it but i had a wife and i raised four children for many years
rondito: i suffered a big fall
rondito: from my own arrogance
rondito: and sin
dpb: not that slavery is wrong
lek: slavery is wrong
dpb: (the Bible does not forbid slavery)
rondito: but i loved my family
lek: forbidding and working ti eradicate slavery are two different things that lead to the same conclusion
lek: that slavery is bad
dieforirc: were they your kids or just some random kids you raised
rondito: they were mine
rondito: they are mine
dpb: there were many righteous men who had slaves
rondito: my wife's faith and her untimely death played a large factor in my rebirth
rondito: i WILL see her again
rondito: and i will see my God
dieforirc: do they know the light of lrh
jordan_3: Scoo scoooooooooo
rondito: do you want to goad me into talking [bad] about lrh
rondito: it is a fine comedy stream
dieforirc: who wants to talk [bad] about lrh
rondito: not me
dpb: i like lrh because it lets me get the word out about the Bible
dieforirc: its the only reason to get up in the morning
dpb: not many shows let me do that
lek: gay
lek: plz /part
lek: go preach in #israel
jordan_3: Lol man i love this group
rondito: how is the gin and water jordan
rondito: did you know that when you drink spirits demons take over your body
rondito: and manipulate your actions
dpb: that is not true rondito
rondito: this is not in the bible
rondito: but it is observable
dpb: if it's not in the Bible then don't say it!
rondito: trv
dpb: believers can and do drink
rondito: it is just the way i feel
rondito: yes
rondito: i drink
rondito: but liquor is a bit much
dpb: i go to fellow twice a week and a lot of us drink
dpb: we drink liquor
rondito: i drink beers
rondito: or low proof wine
dpb: you can drink 200 proof it's not wrong
rondito: sure but it can lead to great sin
dpb: just don't get drunk
rondito: blackouts
rondito: 1 unit of alcohol is equal to half a pint of beer
rondito: 3 units of alcohol in one hour
rondito: leads to drunken behavior
dpb: it depends on your tolerance
dpb: and your body weight
rondito: maybe so
rondito: i am 220 lbs and a hardcore alcoholic
rondito: if i chug 2 pints of beer per hour
rondito: i will be drunk in five
dpb: nobody who believes is an alcoholic
dpb: if alcoholic means addiction
rondito: that is kind to sayxxii
rondito: alcoholism in my life means keeping off the shakes
dieforirc: anyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic
rondito: i have to drink a pint every 2 days
rondito: or i become unnerved
dpb: you should only serve one master, Godxxiii
gjvc: i give up
dpb: if you are addicted to alcohol, that means you aren't serving God
rondito: you gotta serve somebody
rondito: i don't feel like i am betraying the lord
rondito: if he told me
rondito: i would stop
dpb: the Bible says this
rondito: i have given up MANY drugs dpb
rondito: that led me to sin
rondito: when i was a young man i sold meth and crack
rondito: and i robbed people
dpb: i know what you are talking about with the withdraw symptoms, and i don't think having them means you aren't saved, but make sure you aren't addicted in the head
KutmasteR: naw they turn water to wine god loves alcohol
rondito: if i can't get alcohol i resign myself to suffer through
jordan_3: Gin is alright tonight yeck
rondito: i take a drug called depakote that controls seizures
rondito: i know i can do through withdrawal
jordan_3: My lil brother was on it
dpb: and maybe consider taking a break; that stuff is expensive and it does a lot of damage when you do a lot of it
rondito: yeah
rondito: i made it three months last time
rondito: in my 20s i made it 5 years
dpb: made it?
dpb: i'm not saying quit
rondito: sober
rondito: no alchol
dpb: you don't have to quit entirely, just stop drinking so much and let your body rest a little
rondito: my tolerance roars up as soon as i drink again
rondito: i drink two nights a week
rondito: now
dpb: i was drinking a lot earlier this year, and i was getting a beer belly too. so i stopped drinking so much
rondito: it is a problem for me
rondito: i have attended AA
rondito: SAIOP
rondito: one on one therapy
dpb: AA leads to hell
dpb: did you see our article on that?
rondito: not in my town
rondito: they pray the lord's prayerxxiv
dpb: all AA leads to hell
rondito: in a circle
dpb: so?
rondito: and speak openly of god
rondito: so you are wrong about that
dpb: most false churches will do the lord's prayer
rondito: each AA group operates autonomously
stratum: aa is a cult.
dpb: no. wrong. the Bible says to flee from the voice of a strangerxxv
stratum: "we're a self-service cult, we wash our own brains"
rondito: they are my neighbors
rondito: i live in a very small town
dpb: stratum, correct
rondito: ..
dpb: http://atruechurch.info/aa.html
dpb: check it out
rondito: i prefer celebrate recoveryxxvi
rondito: friday nights at my baptist church
dpb: oi
rondito: but friday is when i get paid
rondito: and i like to drink then
dpb: dude you attend a false church too??
rondito: it's a struggle
rondito: i attend any church
dpb: the Bible says not to!
rondito: i like people who believe
rondito: i was raised catholic
dpb: they don't believe!!
dpb: catholicism leads to hell
rondito: i don't believe that
rondito: yes
dpb: ok well then you are not saved
rondito: catholicism is a cult
rondito: of evil
dpb: you are on your way to hell
anji_: I was raised catholic too
rondito: this freewill baptist church is very nice dpb
rondito: you would enjoy it
anji_: I went to Catholic Church as a young kid
rondito: it is just people coming together
dpb: rondito, have them check out our website
rondito: to talk about their problems
dpb: i'm certain they will say it is wrong
rondito: i showed it to my mother who is a big memberxxvii
rondito: she said it is all true
dpb: how is that any proof?
dpb: you and your mother both are on your way to hell
rondito: you sin greatly
rondito: to say these things
rondito: you cannot cast judgement
rondito: it is not yours
dpb: in this matter i say the truth
dpb: it is not wrong to judge
dpb: http://atruechurch.info/judging.html
rondito: no but it is wrong to take ultimate judgement
rondito: from god
rondito: it is his alone
rondito: to determine who is saved
dpb: i said you are *on your way* to hell
dpb: you might repent and go to the kingdom of God, and that is my hope, and the reason I warn you
KutmasteR: we all goin to hell
rondito: you speak in strange ways but i believe you mean well
rondito: but it is a sin to say someone will go to hell or heaven
rondito: either way
dpb: you are on the broad way that leads to destructionxxviii as the Bible describes
lek: broadway
rondito: what do you reccomend
dpb: the broad way is not non-christians religions; it is the false churches that claim to preach the gospel
rondito: fellowship is promoted in the new testament
dpb: i'm not saying fellowship is wrong
dpb: i'm specifically calling out the false churches you attend
dpb: like the baptist thing and AA
rondito: i don't go to AA any longer
dpb: good
rondito: i go to a free will baptist church sometimes
rondito: and they host celebrate recovery
rondito: they do good things
dpb: there is no such thing as free will
dpb: God causes all things
rondito: what a silly thing to say
dpb: you call God silly
rondito: god judges men
rondito: no
rondito: you say men cannot choose between good and evil
rondito: the entire premise
dpb:

Romans 11:36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

rondito: amen
rondito: but you simplify
dpb: so then where is your free will?
dpb: if i choose to do something, it is of and through and to God
rondito: a man can choose evil or good
rondito: most choose evil
rondito: yes
dpb: and those choices are of and through God
dpb: so then your free will is not outside of God's will
rondito: you say on your website
rondito: god harden pharoah's heart
rondito: but his heart did not believe
rondito: in the first place
rondito: his heart was easy
dpb: i'm not sure what your point is
dpb: but God caused the pharoah to do those things
rondito: a man whose will is to serve god will serve god
rondito: a man whose heart is for evil will serve evil
dpb: that is why the pharoah is mentioned again in Romans 9 which makes it even more clear that you have no free will
rondito: the pharoah was not for god
rondito: to begin with
rondito: his heart hardened against moses by god's will with little protest
rondito: it is silly to say he was manipulated
rondito: by god
dpb:

Romans 9:22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,

rondito: god could harden hearts of believers obviously
rondito: but he does not
dpb: He does
rondito: he grants free will to choose
rondito: you are wrong
dpb: there have been and can be more, elect who go to hellxxix
rondito: you are a bully
dpb: that is, people who were once saved, but who are now in hellxxx
rondito: your arrogance is a disservice to your ardent faith and ministry
rondito: IMO
dpb: i am not arrogant. i am warning you about these false beliefs you have
dpb: by using scripture
rondito: i understand
rondito: do you believe dpb
dpb: yes
rondito: that jesus is the son of god
rondito: sent to earth as a man
rondito: to save mankind
rondito: through the holy spirit
rondito: ?
dpb: his name is better translated as Joshua but yes
rondito: alright
rondito: then you are my brotherxxxi
dpb: no
dpb: the Word of God is the entire Bible which you do not believe
dpb: meaning, you do not believe that He is the son of God or that He died
dpb: because you do not believe the entire Word of God
rondito: i believe these things
dpb: you believe in a false Christ, a false Word
dpb:

Matthew 4:4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"

rondito: this is true also but you know i am a sinner and so are you
dpb: yes i am
KutmasteR: there is no god
rondito: and you would deny faith in Christ
rondito: and turn away faithful
dpb: what's that?
rondito: ?
dpb: are you saying that you are faithful, and i am turning you away?
rondito: i believe you are dismissing my testimony
dpb: rondito, I am showing you where your statements contradict scripture
rondito: alright well you know i don't attend this church regularly
rondito: but i enjoy their celebrate recovery meetings
dpb: you shouldn't attend it at all
rondito: they help many people
dpb: they help no one
dpb: there are none saved who hear the voice of a stranger
dpb:

John 10:5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.

rondito:

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

rondito: Matthew 25:40
dpb:

2 Peter 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

(speaking of false teachers)
dpb: water is life, and false teachers have none
rondito:

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

rondito: you want to divide on earth i think
rondito: but that is god's
rondito: to do on judgement day
dpb: rondito, the good works will be forgotten of those who perish
dpb: just as the evil works of those who are saved will be forgotten
rondito: it is still commanded
dpb: and Christ came to divide, here and now
rondito: you chastise me and say i don't follow the entirety of the bible
rondito: and now you argue against it
dpb: what do i argue against?
rondito: helping the meek
dpb: how have i done this thing?
rondito:

dpb: you shouldn't attend it at all
rondito: they help many people
dpb: they help no one
dpb: there are none saved who hear the voice of a stranger

dpb: rondito, i am helping you by warning you that such a church saves no body
rondito: perhaps you will go your way and i will go mine
rondito: i have heard your lectures
dpb: i'm sorry to hear that
rondito: i dislike this arguing
dpb: oh i love it
rondito: and i don't think anyone wants to read it
dpb: the Bible says to contend earnestly for the faith
rondito: i have seen some things on your website
rondito: that contradict the trinity
rondito: and i am skeptical
dpb: so then you are a liar too
rondito: but i hold my tongue
dpb: i asked you earlier if there was anything on the site with which you disagree
rondito: yes i am a liar
rondito: i am a sinner as wel
dpb: please send an email to darwin telling him that he has it all wrong
rondito: hmm
dpb: with examples and references preferably
dpb: and if he is indeed wrong, i'm sure he will repent
rondito: i will do no such thing
rondito: what a silly venture
dpb: that's a shame
rondito: i do not want to be harsh with you
rondito: stop now
dpb: the "trinity" thing is also a false teaching
dpb: God is more than just the Father Son and Holy Spirit
rondito: mmm
rondito: get behind me
dpb: lol
rondito: nobody's mad but the devil daniel
dpb: God is angry
dpb:

Psalm 7:11 God is a just judge, And God is angry with the wicked every day.

rondito: you suppose to know god's will
dpb: i know what the Bible says
rondito: what unhappiness you must dwell in

  1. EFNet is a network of chat rooms, and #LRH is one of those rooms.
  2. Proverbs 10:17 He who keeps instruction is in the way of life, But he who refuses correction goes astray.

  3. John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.


  4. Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

    Emphasis added.


  5. John 2:6 Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of purification of the Jews, containing twenty or thirty gallons apiece. 7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the waterpots with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And He said to them, “Draw some out now, and take it to the master of the feast.” And they took it. 9 When the master of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom. 10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!”

  6. I think this is a reference to the Rap songs on our YouTube channel, and how they have "whack beats" -- that is, the music behind the rap doesn't sound good.

  7. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


  8. Revelation 2:12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write,

    ‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword: 13 “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.


  9. Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.


  10. Psalm 14:1 The fool has said in his heart,
    “There is no God.”
    They are corrupt,
    They have done abominable works,
    There is none who does good.


  11. Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
    And the firmament shows His handiwork.
    2 Day unto day utters speech,
    And night unto night reveals knowledge.
    3 There is no speech nor language
    Where their voice is not heard.
    4 Their line has gone out through all the earth,
    And their words to the end of the world.

  12. This is a lie. Later on in the conversation he admits to having reservations about the website.

  13. Proverbs 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing,
    And obtains favor from the Lord.

  14. This sounds more like Buddhism.

  15. Romans 6:5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.


  16. Leviticus 20:10 ‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.


  17. Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)


  18. Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

  19. I missed this one. If his wife was addicted to something when she died, she is in hell.
  20. Because you as the man would still be free to marry another -- it's not as hard a decision.

  21. 1 Timothy 5:3 Honor widows who are really widows. 4 But if any widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show piety at home and to repay their parents; for this is good and acceptable before God. 5 Now she who is really a widow, and left alone, trusts in God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day. 6 But she who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives. 7 And these things command, that they may be blameless. 8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

  22. He thought I was saying he isn't an alcoholic. What I was suggesting is that he isn't a believer.
  23. Correction: you can only serve one master.
    Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

  24. LOL! "They can't be bad; they read that really nice sounding part of the Bible that all the other false churches like to read!" This is not a Biblical standard.
  25. This is not quite true. It says His sheep flee. It's a matter of fact; not put as a command.

    John 10:5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.”

  26. Wicked stuff.
  27. I misunderstood this line. I guess he meant he showed his mother our website. I thought he meant he showed his mother the false church he goes to. It's hard to tell from the log, but parts of this chat happened very quickly and it's not always easy to know what's being referenced.

  28. Matthew 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

  29. This is not true. Scripture teaches just the opposite in Romans 8:28-39:

    28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
    31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written:

    “For Your sake we are killed all day long;
    We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”

    37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    I meant that there have been saved people who ended up in hell.

  30. Hebrews 10:26-31

    26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    John 15:1-6

    “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

    5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

  31. We hear this one a lot. There is a clear pattern to the way in which people are deceived.

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