Daniel P. Barron

Why don't we have any bishops or deacons?

Thursday, January 23, 2020

CanadianCatholic: How come ATrueChurch has no bishops or deacons, when the Bible assumes that churches have bishops and deacons? Titus 1:7
Scripture: Titus 1:7 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<7> For a bishop, as God's steward, must be blameless; he must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain,

CanadianCatholic: Philippians 1:1
Scripture: Philippians 1:1 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Salutation
<1> Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

CanadianCatholic: Timothy 3:8
Scripture: 1 Timothy 3:8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Qualifications of Deacons
<8> Deacons likewise must be serious, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for gain;

Darwin: I was a bishop (overseer) for about 20 years, but am no longer due to a daughter falling away from the faith. Also, the qualifications have to be met and someone desiring the position. We are a very small group.
CanadianCatholic: So were you a bishop of ATrueChurch?
Darwin: Yes
CanadianCatholic: Does ATrueChurch claim the authority to provide the correct interpretation of passages in the Bible?
Darwin: We simply believe the Bible.
CanadianCatholic: So, if we disagree on an interpretation of a passage, does ATrueChurch believe that God has given it the authority to give us a correct interpretation?
Darwin: The authority is the Bible itself. Hebrews 4:12-13
Scripture: Hebrews 4:12-13 - New King James Version (NKJV)

<12> For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. <13> And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

CanadianCatholic: So what should be done when 2 people cannot agree on the exegesis of a passage?
Darwin: Proverbs 2:1-6
Scripture: Proverbs 2:1-6 - New King James Version (NKJV)

The Value of Wisdom
<1> My son, if you receive my words, And treasure my commands within you, <2> So that you incline your ear to wisdom, And apply your heart to understanding; <3> Yes, if you cry out for discernment, And lift up your voice for understanding, <4> If you seek her as silver, And search for her as for hidden treasures; <5> Then you will understand the fear of the Lord, And find the knowledge of God. <6> For the Lord gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;

Darwin: Jude 1:3i
Darwin: 1 Timothy 6:3-5
Scripture: 1 Timothy 6:3-5 - New King James Version (NKJV)

Error and Greed
<3> If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, <4> he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, <5> useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

  1. Jude 1:

    3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

11 Responses

  1. Bob

    That was great
    Hi

  2. Glad you liked it.

  3. lol. I can't see what tags got stripped but I'm guessing it was script with type equals "text/javascript" ?

    Do you have something to say, or should I mark your comment as spam so the rest get flagged as well?

  4. Bob

    I was just seeing what html tags are allowed because the link to html tags doesn't work on mobile

  5. Works for me. And even if that were true, why would you try "script" unless you were up to something. Does this have to do with my recent mention in the logs?

  6. Jeffery

    Do you know if anymore of these conversations you are having with others are coming out soon

  7. I don't have anything queued up at the moment. Have you already read everything else?

  8. Jeffery

    I am still working on some but I mostly done. I wish there was some new content soon because I will be done reading it all. Best of luck finding something new

  9. The man

    What is your favorite one of these chat things

  10. I prefer IRC over all else but most of these are from discord or reddit.

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