Daniel P. Barron

If the diameter is 10, what is the circumference?

Monday, January 14, 2019

This log has been modified for spelling and formatting. It has been reviewed by Darwin Fish, and his comment has been added as a footnote.

bait: If the diameter is 10, what is the circumference?
Daniel: heh
The Embodiment of Migraine: He's asking you a legitimate question.
Daniel: Yes, I know what he is referring to.
The Embodiment of Migraine: Just checking.
bait: 1 Kings 7:23i
BibleBot: 1 Kings 7:23 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

<23> Then he made the molten sea; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high. A line of thirty cubits would encircle it completely.

The Embodiment of Migraine: Nice, you deirrationalized pi.
bait: 1 Kings 7:23 ojb
BibleBot: Melachim Alef 7:23 - Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)

<23> And he made a Yam Mutzak (Cast Metal Sea), ten cubits from brim to brim; it was completely round and its height was 5 cubits; and a line of 30 cubits did measure around about it.

Daniel: I don't see that is saying pi is rational.
bait: If pi = 3, pi is rational.
Daniel: It doesn't say pi is 3.
bait: It does imply it.
Daniel: It seems to, sure.
bait: It does explicitly give the measurements where pi = 3.
Daniel: It gives a measurement that is 10 and another that is 30 but it does not say these things are the diameter and circumference of the same circle, in the mathematical sense. It could be that the diameter is measured from the outside edges and the circumference measured on the inside edge. I don't know though.
bait: It said it used a line to measure. So it would be the outside. You can't use a line to measure the circumference of the inside.
Daniel: I don't know.ii
bait: Can it be wrong?
Daniel: Is the Bible wrong? No.
bait: You think the bible doesn't contain any mistakes? I mean there's clearly differences between bibles. In different versions. That can't possibly be your stance.
Daniel: The translations can be wrong.

  1. 1 Kings 7:
    23 And he made the Sea of cast bronze, ten cubits from one brim to the other; it was completely round. Its height was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference.

  2. Darwin: Best I can tell, it is simply a round number. 31 is a round number. 31.4 is a round number... Or the 10 could also be a round number, being actually a bit shy of 10.
    Daniel: 9.5493
    Darwin: 9.6 would be 30.1

4 Responses

  1. Svarthol

    You make a great point. Love it. "bait" is using a pretty loose understanding of the Transitive Property. And by "loose" I mean "incorrect."

  2. Durgen ^

    Circumference is diameter*pi, so the answer is 31.4159 etc. I didn't realize the bible had pi wrong lol

  3. Elric

    That was a kinda funny conversation.

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