Joëlle♀: I'm honestly tired of my life of sin.
I see a picture of my life that ain't pretty.However, sometimes I feel like I squandered my chance at redemption.
Like I pissed away my chance, but I cannot pinpoint exactly when this would have occured.
Just multiple times praying for forgiveness & winding up doubting all over again.
Daniel: Luke 9:23
Scripture: Luke 9:23 - New King James Version (NKJV)<23> Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: Can I carry a wooden cross on me at all times
Daniel: @Joëlle♀ your life isn't pretty, deny it.
Daniel: Luke 14:26
Scripture: Luke 14:26 - New King James Version (NKJV)<26> "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
David.: the word hate don't literally means hate, its mainly signifying a disgust in their life as it is not according to christ will. i
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: That's hate
Daniel: it means hate literally
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: I have this feeling
David.: Hate is murder. so good condones murder?
Daniel: how is hate murder?
Joëlle♀: Die with Christ
David.: He speaking about the fruits, the lifestyle of them.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: The fruits
Joëlle♀: Hating w/o a cause ?
David.: 1 john 3:15
Scripture: 1 John 3:15 - New King James Version (NKJV)<15> Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Joëlle♀: I was about to bring that up
David.: Stop being foolish and shallow in your thinking and understand the doctrine of christ bro. y'all are babes indeed.
David.: Just know a lot of bible verses but dont understand them.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: That implies jealousy
Daniel: how do you know you understand them, @David. ?
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: the tale of two brothers was of the impure having contempt for the pure, not the other way around
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: If Abel hated Cain, he wouldn't have died
David.: Asking how do i know i understand them, is like asking "how do you know you know anything". it's clearly spoken and easily understood once the holy spirit is the one teaching, so he teaches according to the spirit not according to the flesh.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: Read it out loud David
David.: Get down in the bible PJCB and Daniel.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: I'll wait
Daniel: show me with Scripture that your interpretation is correct.
David.: i just showed you.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: How does one go about writing scripture
Daniel: what have you shown me?
David.: using one verse i just did.
David.: That hate is murder therefore that's not the hate spoken of by christ.
Joëlle♀: Which doctrines ?
I've been in here for months.
I can't say that I can refute the doctrines.
Sure, there are some things that I question, but it has more to do with my limited understanding due to a fleshly mind.
Daniel: that verse is about brothers in Christ. To hate such a person is to hate Christ Himself, as all believers are His body. ii
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: David you must realize that saving you is a much bigger task than youd like to admit
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: Forgive me god for not giving you the time
Daniel: Romans 12:5
Scripture: Romans 12:5 - New King James Version (NKJV)<5> so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another.
David.: So you hate someone because of their non belief is what you saying?
Daniel: yes, I hate all workers of iniquity, as does God. (Psalm 5:5)
Scripture: Psalm 5:5 - New King James Version (NKJV)<5> The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: Do you hate me Daniel
Joëlle♀:Forgive me god for not giving you the time
Due to wandering the chapel perilous or is this in reference to something else ?
Daniel: Psalm 139:21
Scripture: Psalm 139:21 - New King James Version (NKJV)<21> Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
Daniel:
Do you hate me Daniel
@Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar yes.
Joëlle♀: Damn. Daniel.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: it's okay I hate you too
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: this means we are saved, according to the bible.
David.: Ok daniel, Good riddance with that discussion it's pointless casting pearls before swine. Matthew 7:6
Scripture: Matthew 7:6 - New King James Version (NKJV)<6> "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: I think I used that line before
Daniel: yes, many false christians use this to avoid obeying (Jude 1:3)
Scripture: Jude 3 - New King James Version (NKJV)<3> Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
David.: Good Riddance. is all i'll say. i wont say anything else in this server, can ban me or boot me. but y'all are exceedingly foolish.
Joëlle♀: This gives rise to the question, do we hate everyone or just the wicked.
Do we say to another saint "I don't hate you" when they clearly struggle with sin as we do.
Do we not hate all bodies of sin, but love the inner man who loves the law ?
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: Exceedingly foolish, I am the blind idiot god
Daniel: well, we are commanded to hate ourselves or we aren't saved. So that is someone we hate who is a saint.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: this sounds uptight though
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: to hate everyone
Daniel: God hates everyone.
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: lol that link
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: I might put that in my bio
Joëlle♀: Shame.
I don't see the foolish errors.
Please meditate on these discussions.
Why would you be banned or booted for expressing your belief ?
Poor Jewish Crypto Beggar: He wants to feel Christlike
Darwin: Luke 14:26 "hate" = "forsake" of vs 33
Luke 14:
33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.
- Ephesians 5:
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
1 Corinthians 12:
12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many.
15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18 But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19 And if they were all one member, where would the body be?
20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.
Romans 12:
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.